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    Cheers! Four PH universities in top debate societies

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    Four Philippine universities are in the top 50 debate societies in the world, according to the latest rankings of the International Debate Education Association (IDEA).

    The Ateneo de Manila University ranked 7th, with 3,070 points scored by 31 teams, is the only Asian university in the top 10 of the World University Debate Rankings.

    The University of the Philippines Diliman came in 23rd, with 2,171 points scored by 22 teams, while UP Manila followed at the 40th spot with 1,511 points by 15 teams.

    De La Salle University Manila placed 42nd with 1,485 points scored by 23 teams.

    “The World University Debate Rankings draw from the results of 33 high-profile tournaments across the world to show an accurate representation of the comparative strength of debating societies against each other,” IDEA said on its website.

    Emeritus member and former Chair of the World Debating Council Colm Flynn maintains the rankings which include 500 debating societies.

    “The totals are calculated by adding the results of all the teams that society fielded in the tournaments we track over the course of the year, right up to the largest event – the World Universities Debating Championships,” IDEA added.

    The Philippines hosted the 2011 World Universities Debating Championships, considered as the “Olympics of Debate,” last December. It was held in DLSU Manila with 1,400 participants from 43 countries.

    As of January 2012, the scores included in the ranking were from tournaments held in Africa, Asia, Oceania, Austral Asians, Europe, United Kingdom, North and South America.

    IDEA said it will expand the number of tournaments in response to criticisms that the list is not comprehensive enough to be called a “world ranking.”

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    • marz  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      WUDC uses British Parliament, it requires arguments, facts, examples, and you have to link it to the standards set. Motion is given 15 minutes before the debate starts and it can be current events, sports, technology etc. You wouldn't survive a round if you don't read. These are students who are honing their skills in logic. I don't understand why there is so much hatred from the comment section.
      • Kris 3 months ago
        Because most people don't understand the nuances of debate, nor do they consider it a sport. They think it's just mindless arguing.
      • marz 3 months ago
        It's pointless to reason with people who don't even know what they're talking about.
      • Erni 3 months ago
        What good would the best debaters do if if it would not help in making the country or the world for that matter, a better place for every living being? MORE WORK, LESS TALK...
    • Walter S  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      sa pakiktipagtalo, dapat # 1 pa nga ang ranking ng Pinas! Ayaw natin magpatalo, palagi tayong may katwiran.
      • bong 3 months ago
        @Walter, you are right. Everybody seems to have his own opinion. I prefer that more Pinoys learn how to listen. Not everybody can be a General, the rest should follow whoever is the leader. Anyways, nothing wrong with voicing his own opinion; as long as it makes sense.
      • mai 3 months ago
        In addition Bong, as long as it makes sense and delivered right with respect to others
      • ARLON 3 months ago
        I agree walter, yun na nga lang sa simpleng bagay sa bahay, alam ng mali siya may mga rason pa para idepensa ang mali nya.
    • Kris  •  3 months ago
      Nice. The Philippines ranks high in a sport that requires logic and hard work, and all you people do is complain. Debaters work hard to represent this country.They have gone against schools like Harvard and Brown and have won. And this is the thanks they get.

      And before you all say that debate is just mindless jabbering, how about you try to sign up for your school's debating club. Or Toastmasters, for those who missed their chance in school. And then see how easy it is.

      Not all debaters turn into politicians, by the way. But most do get hired in great companies, because the skills they've learned through debating tend to serve them well in interviews, and later on position themselves in leadership roles.
      • Leian Kyle 3 months ago
        +1
      • marz 3 months ago
        True. Most of them does not need to undergo the usual process of looking for a job. Companies look at their profile before graduation and invites them for an interview even before graduation. Some are pre-hired, they just have to say yes.
      • Julius 3 months ago
        Kris going against Harvard and Brown is a great thing. but is there anything constructive in that? secondly as far as i see, people get hired cause the employer hires the employee cause they have reached something in common like ideas or goals. i dont see where debate fits there.
    • Curious lang  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      u dont have to look far...dito lang sa comment section ang daming magaling makipag debate hehe...
    • Baby James  •  3 months ago
      Now i know why we have bunch of MORE TALK LESS WORK politicians..
    • Gian Paolo  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Funny how you folks react negatively to positive news. Debate is at the very foundation of the democracy that you enjoy today. Di kaya ine-exemplify niyo lang 'yung problem na tinutukoy niyo? Just in case di kayo aware, Australian/US/UK universities top the charts. So anong correlation ngayon ng galing sa pakikipagtalo sa kahirapan?
    • Writer's Block  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Sad how instead of celebrating an achievement, and yes, it is still an achievement, of the Philippine education system, people opt to generalize and bash their fellow Filipinos for something they worked so hard for. FYI, not all people who are good at debating turn out to be corrupt politicians. And not all people who are good at debate turn out to be all talk no action. Don't underestimate the power and effectiveness of an intellectual discourse. In fact, talking it out, analyzing it from every aspect and knowing how to communicate ideas to others are the first stepping stones to converting spoken ideas into actions.

      You don't even know these students who represent these debate teams, these schools. You don't know what they go through, how hard they work, to achieve what they did. Contrary to what people think, debating is not merely talking your head off. You actually have to present your basis for what your saying. You have to present it in a logical manner, based on reason and not merely on emotions and on public opinion. And believe me, that's not easy. So to those who think debating is merely talking, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
    • Raenaire Rose  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      ignorance is not something that people should flaunt... if you don't know how or why debates are done... then it is wiser to shut up rather than to open your mouth and prove to the whole world how incredibly and annoyingly stupid you are... coz shunning most of the smartest people in the world can be considered intelligent right???
    • tifanny  •  Quezon City, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      for me, ang mga pinoy ay talagang magaling sa pakiki-pagdebate, advantage na sa atin ang marunong mg salita ng english, kahit ano pa prinsipiyo,paniniwala...
    • Cali5556  •  3 months ago
      Back in college, a professor of mine remarked that one of the less desirable traits of Pinoys was our seeming ungraciousness with praise or commendation. When a friend says, “Ang ganda naman n’yang damit mo!”/”Bagay sa ‘yo ang gupit mo ah!” a typical Pinoy’s near- instinctive reaction would be to downplay that merit and actually put himself or herself down, by replying “Eto? Eh ang mura lang kaya nito!”/”Kaya nga patay na ‘yung barbero eh!”

      A simple “thank you” in reply to a good word from another person seems to be nigh impossible for some of us Pinoys. Para ba tayong napapaso sa papuri, or hirap na hirap makapaniwala na may maganda pala tayong katangian.

      Here on Yahoo! Phils., whenever an article that sheds positive light on either the country or its citizens comes up, you can expect that the comments section would subsequently be peppered with putdowns from Pinoys themselves. Take this one for example.

      And we dare wonder bakit hindi tayo umangat-angat as a people and a country?
    • max  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      What does a politician and a modern automobile have in common? AIR BAGS.
    • marz  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Filipino debaters are being hired by corporations even before graduation. They were trained to read, gather facts, and think logically. Clearly, no one here knows what's going on in the Philippine Debate Community. Keep on bashing these debaters, they probably have a better pay check than you guys. Mind you, most of them are employed by private corporations, not by the government. That debunks your argument on linking them with the impeachment trial. Gather information kasi muna before talking. Kayo all talk, no research.
    • Master pogi  •  3 months ago
      just keep in mind ACTIONS SPEAKSLOUDER THAN WORDS!
    • Kevin James  •  Red Deer, Canada  •  3 months ago
      No, it does NOT na magaling sila sa dada. They just proved how Pilipinos are good at logic. They can connect facts and make these logical arguments to prove that they are right and why the other side is otherwise. But of course, reading the comments made here, pinakita na naman ng Pinoy na not all of us are like that. Some of you guys make me ashamed to say I am a full-blooded Pinoy. Debate is not just a battle of superfluous words. Kailangan kang maging mabilis at mautak. Now, if you don't know the art of debate, shut your pie-hole because you are not only making a fool of yourself but you are making ALL OF US look ignorant and dumb to the whole world.
    • Jusko Day!  •  Riyadh, Saudi Arabia  •  3 months ago
      Actually, parang madaya! Bakit hiniwalay pa ang UP Manila at Diliman, eh parehong UP yan, magkaiba lang ng campus! Pag pinagsama yung points nung dalawang campus 2171 + 1511 = 3682, mas malaki sa points ng Ateneo na 3070 ! Eh di mas mataas dapat ranking ng UP at nasa top ten din sila!
    • kaye  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      ....its really more idealistic people in the phil.
    • Debmarcley Z  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      Sure we are good in debates or IDEAS
      but the problem is , the moment of TRUTH or the Implementation
      DAMING sat sat ng pilipino kulang naman sa gawa, kung meron laging late at huli na
      may mangyayari munang masama bago kumilos lalo na sa gobyerno
    • *** STRIKE ANYWHERE ***  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      magaling talagang mangatuwiran ang mga pinoy , lalo na ang mga tiwaling oficiales sa gobierno..
    • boy  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  3 months ago
      this is to prove to the world that this nation aint dumb and poor.
    • klaus  •  3 months ago
      ...which also shows that we argue more about ideas than making one.lol
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