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    Defense team brands De Lima testimony hearsay and not damaging

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    Lawyers of Chief Justice Renato C. Corona on Wednesday found nothing "damaging" from Justice Secretary Leila de Lima's testimony, which they considered as mere "hearsay."

    "Her opinion and her testimony relied heavily on the dissenting opinion... It appears she has no personal knowledge surrounding the allegation," defense spokesperson Tranquil Salvador III said in a press conference after the proceedings.

    Salvador was referring to a dissenting opinion of Justice Ma. Lourdes Sereno against a Supreme Court resolution to issue a temporary restraining order against government’s watch list order against former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and her husband, Jose Miguel.

    Sereno's dissenting opinion showed that the chief magistrate tried to approach Associate Justice Presbitero Velasco and asked him not to promulgate the dissenting opinions, according to the Justice chief’s testimony before the Senate impeachment court.

    Presiding judge and Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile asked De Lima if she could cite an instance when Corona acted alone in issuing a court ruling.

    "No, no... There is no resolution, order or process coming from the Supreme Court which was issued alone by respondent Chief Justice Corona…" De Lima replied.

    Lead defense counsel Serafin Cuevas opposed De Lima's testimony, saying she was "amending and criticizing the decision of the honorable court. It has nothing to do with the impeachment complaint..."

    "Mahirap mag-draw ng conclusion sa binasa ni De Lima kasi wala naman siya doon noong sinulat ang resolution at ang dissenting opinions,” said lawyer and defense spokesperson Karen Jimeno.

    "Mahirap mag-rely sa court records,

    kasi ang nangyayari dito ay parang hearsay lang ang sinasabi ni Secretary De Lima," she added.

    Defense lawyer Rico Paolo Quicho expounded on the defense team’s position that Corona could not have influenced the outcome of Supreme Court decisions, saying, "Bakit kailangan mo i-single out si chief justice kung lahat bumoto and they voted as a collegial body." "Hindi mo maaring maipakita nagmaneobra... Wala talagang matibay na ebidensya na si CJ ay may ginawang mali," he added.

    On De Lima's allegation about a "conspiracy" over the TRO against the Arroyo couple's watch list orders, Jimeno said, "The definition of conspiracy… you have to act together and everyone has agreed to commit a crime. Hindi puwedeng basta-basta sabihing may conspiracy."

    On Gloria Arroyo

    De Lima said she issued at least three watch list orders last year against Mrs. Arroyo by virtue of DOJ department circular 41, which she noted was a "consolidated" version of department circulars 17 and 18 on issuing wait list and hold departure orders.

    Mrs. Arroyo sent the Justice Department three separate letters in September and October last year requesting for an allow departure order so she could travel abroad, the Justice chief told the court.

    De Lima said she sought the opinion of Health Secretary Enrique Ona to determine if there was an "extraordinary" necessity to send Mrs. Arroyo abroad for medical treatment.

    "Ang kanyang opinyon is that hindi po life-threatening ang kondisyon ng dating Pangulo at walang medical necessity... at puwede daw matugunan dito sa bansa ng ating local doctors," De Lima added.

    At this juncture, Cuevas said he was concerned by De Lima's testimony and that the validity of the watch list order was still pending with the Supreme Court.

    "I am worried there might be a conflict of findings and conclusions between this court and the Supreme

    Court," Cuevas said.

    However, Enrile allowed De Lima to go on "stating the facts."

    The Justice chief said she "doubted Mrs. Arroyo's real reason for leaving the country," especially after finding out — through an itinerary submitted by the former president's camp to the Justice Department — that the former President was also scheduled to attend conferences in the United States and Geneva, Switzerland which were not related to her medical condition.

    The Justice Department also got information that Arroyo was bringing with her at least 14 people, not just "four to five" as indicated by the former President's camp in their letters to the department, De Lima claimed.

    "Mayroon pong personal nurse, aide, dati niyang empleyado, utility at mayroon ding passport worker. Nag-isip po ako... kung magpapagamot lang, bakit ganoon kadami," she added. — VS, GMA News

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    • Achilles  •  San Francisco, United States  •  2 months ago
      Wait natin si Justice Serano na nag iisang justice na gustong 2.5 million per hectare ang Hacienda Luisita base sa 2008 value pabor kay pnoy at presyong imposibleng mabayaran ng hindi lang magsasaka maski pa ng manager ng SM..

      14 justices sa presyo ng Hacienda
      11 - bumoto sa 1989 value na 170,00 per hectare
      3 - hayaan ang landbank at DAR ang magtatag ng presyo
      1 - gusto 2.5 million per hectare pabor kay PNOY base sa 2008 value(base sa pagka appoint sa kanya ni PNOY)=justice sereno

      mga JUSTIIS
      achilles--1k per hectare base sa value after 10 years na pinagkasunduan or 1968 value
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      - kayo naman???
      • Rizaldo Ibarra 2 months ago
        Nako, di papayag ang mga Naninilaw na Mata at Balat dyan sa 1k per hectare 1968 base value na gusto mo, at syempre, may dissenting opinion si PNot appointed Justice Sereno.
    • asuncion  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      hindi po yung sinasabi ng testigo ang binibigyan nyo ng diin kung hindi yung tumetistigo ang sinisiraan nyo.
      • arnold 2 months ago
        lahat ng sinasabi ng TESTIGO AY TSISMIS LANG dahil galing lang sa sinulat ni BIAS JUSTICE SERENO, wag na tayong maglokohan dito, ang mga HUWAD, sinungaling at magnanakaw NA PROSECUTORS ay diyan magaling sa TSISMIS, lahat ng maruruming paraan gagawin nila para lang maisalba ang PORK BARRELL NILA, Saan nanggaling Bank account ni CORONA, sa small lady, garahe, yon pala pinanakaw sa AMLC, at Bangko Sentral. Magkano kaya ang pinakawalang pera ni ABNOY dito sa TRIAL NA TO. PORK BARRELL sa 188+ TONGRESSMEN, 60 PRIVATE PROSECUTORS na di magamit dahil palpak, PRO ABNOY SENATORS, BIR, AMLC, BANGKO SENTRAL at lahat na ng Resources ng gobyerno, sana sa proyekto na lang, baka matapos ang termino ni ABNOY, parol lang sa pasko ang proyekto nya. KAWAWA NAMAN.
      • Joey 2 months ago
        EVIL TARDS PRO CORONA BWAHAHAHAHAHA
    • Vincent  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      The seemingly dumb move of the prosecution to have DOJ secretary state the "heresays" is actually a brilliant move to commence the entry of associate justice Sereno in the battlefield. :) Tignan lang natin kung matatawag pang "hearsay" kapag mismong si Sereno na ang naglabas ng baho sa loob ng SC.

      Guys I suggest you watch the actual trial in GMA News TV, don't rely on news reports. Yahoo news is extremely biased! Kulang kulang yung balita dito. Hindi pati sinabi yung ruling ni enrile na "LET US REMEMBER THAT THIS IS AN IMPEACHMENT COURT NOT A CRIMINAL COURT, LET HER STATEMENTS REMAIN ON THE RECORD, WE ARE DECIDING BASED ON AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE AND NOT TRYING TO DECIDE GUILTY BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT" something like that. Bakit hindi kasama yun dito?? Hindi din naisama yung Nov. 18, 22, and 24 issuance ng TRO at yung 7-6 vote na ginawang 9-4 ni Midas Marquez. ETC. baka naman may nakabinbin ding kaso ang Yahoo sa SC kaya biased sila magreport?? hahhahaha

      Mga minamahal kong kababayan huwag kayong magpakabobo, huwag kayong maghusga batay lang sa nababasa ninyo dito!
      • Janice Angela 2 months ago
        Tama, trap yun kasi hindi na subpoena ang mga justices ng SC. Magaling! hhaha
      • Noy 2 months ago
        you will not expect any SC justices to testify even it is an invitation, it is demeaning and a form of subjugation imposed to an equal branch of government by the senate. Sereno is not that stupid to fall into that trap. Kung papayag siya, it is a historical event,that SC justice is breaking the time honored character of SC, the independency and sanctity of non disclosure of the en banc discussion. the fact is De lima is putting words into the mouth of of sereno. yes enrile put it in record though its an hearsay, so that future generation could read that a justice secretary had testified in an impeachment court even when she knew before hand that what she would be saying is a hearsay.
      • Vincent 2 months ago
        you'r wrong in saying that i will not expect. I do expect. Ibahin mo si Sereno among the others. She already acted once, when she deliberately publicized her SALN.
        even if there's this secrecy on the accounts of SC justices,
        you said,
        "it is demeaning and a form of subjugation imposed to an equal branch of government by the senate." Kaya nga po unanimous vote na hindi i subpoena ang mga associate justices as a respect to a coequal branch, but a justice going there her on will, and not by subpoena is another issue. Sereno has already started acting against the "what she thinks is wrong" within the SC, so don't ever say "TIME HONORED" it's "TIME COVERED DISHONOR." The statements of DOJ Secretary has cited honorable justice Sereno, because the papers were done by her (Sereno). By having her say, "yes, those are my words" , imo, would be enough to prove that those "hearsays" are admissible.
    • Achilles  •  San Francisco, United States  •  2 months ago
      Napaka Bias naman ng Yahoo...Anung Not Damaging...sa dami ng Kwinento ni Delima ay imposibleng walang naging damage ito...Simula sa hold order hanggang TRO all the way tru health stats ni GMA...ANG TANONG, BAKIT SA HINABA NG PANAHON AY AT DAMI NG AKUSASYON AY HOLD DEPARTURE LANG ANG IGINAWAD NYO sa MGA ARROYO? INANTAY NYO PA NA MAGKAROON NG CONFLICT SA TRO FROM SC?HINAYAAN NA MAGKARON NG EKSENA SA AIRPORT???BIAS TALAGA ANG YAHOO...SELF DESTRUCTION AND BIG DAMAGE TO PROSECUTION AND PNOY AS WELL!!
      • arnold 2 months ago
        BIAS PALA, punta ka na lang doon sa ABS CBN bias nandoon lahat ang kakampi nyo.
      • Joey 2 months ago
        SIGURO INC DIN TONG YAHOO.. EVIL TARDS
      • Vincent 2 months ago
        Baka may nakabinbin ding kaso ang Yahoo sa korte suprema kaya biased sila. hahaha
    • Joseph  •  Legazpi City, Bicol Region  •  2 months ago
      Big mistake of the prosecution team is putting De Lima on the stand, parang nakikita ng filipino gaanong bulok ang DOJ. Through out her whole explanation of hearsay she had no justification not to follow the TRO, she continually defies court orders based on her opinion and and and HEARSAY, is that the proper conduct of a DOJ? This piggy lady should be the one being impeached.
      • Vincent 2 months ago
        Impeachment court po ito hindi criminal court. Hearsay as it may be, it will remain in the record as JPE said. Hearsay as of now, pero si Justice Sereno ay na cite dito. Kung sya na mismo ang pupunta hearsay pa rin ba? tignan lang natin
      • arnold 2 months ago
        VINCENT, doon ka na lang sa tabi ng BARBERYA maglitis ng IMPEACHMENT TRIAL kung gusto mong kasama ang TSISMIS ang Judge nyo si HARI NG TSISMOSA na si DALDALIMA, kayo na lang ang mga kulto ni ABNOY ang makinig. Kumukunti na ang kapanalig nyo, at naligaw ka ata ng pinagko comment mo yahoo ito, na malaya sa pagpapahiwatig di ABS BIAS CBN o Inquirer. JUSTICE SERENO BA KAMO, Ang En Banc Session ginaganap yan sa loob lang ng Korte Suprema, pinalabas nya, REYNA RIN NG TSISMOSA. MGA TSISMOSO AT TSISMOSA.
      • Rizaldo Ibarra 2 months ago
        Wag kayo mag alala, pag lumantad na yang Justice Sereno na yan, sya mapag-babalingan ng galit. Sundin ba naman ang utos ng Presidenteng walang alam sa batas eh. Babaliktad yan si Justice Sereno, makikita ninyo at sasabihin ng mga Yellow Turds na binayaran ni Arroyo yan "Base on their Observation™ by Lie na! Dilemma!"*

        Note *: It's not a typography.
    • pedropenduko  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      COMPARE

      look at delimas body language, her hand movements, facial expression and demeanor

      compare it with ADOLF HITLER

      the similarities will tell alot

      heheheheheh
    • Vitus  •  2 months ago
      Knowing what delima would have testified, even a first year law student would not dare to have delima on the witness stand....prosecution team...helloooooo....nag may i go out kayo during the discussion on evidence ano?....WHAT A SHAME!
    • Dominic  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      Haven't you noticed that the prosecution has been fumbling from the start? And now they use a witness using the word DAW several times. Really, hello prosecution, may utak po mga Pilipino to assess your credibility. We are not going to Edsa for you, dream on.
    • Vincent  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      Hearsay as of now, pero si Justice Sereno ay na cite dito. Kung sya na mismo ang pupunta hearsay pa rin ba? tignan lang natin
    • Bentot Zepol  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      d5 parang tuta sunod ng sunod kay p noy
    • Malivodka  •  2 months ago
      Dapat si delima sa Showbiz Central o sa The Buzz sya nagsalaysay o nagkwento, dahil panay tismiss lang ang alam nya...
    • Letlet  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      D kasi alam kung ano dapat sabihin sa corte.... hearing ang pununtahan mo sa Senate hindi si Boy Abunda....anu ba naman kayo Prosecutors mag bigay naman kayo nga tamang testigos nyo... nakakapagod na manuod walang katuturan palagi lang kayo napapahiya....
    • Percival  •  Fremont, United States  •  3 months ago
      Dapat itong si D5 ay ikulong ito dahil perhuwesyo.
      Kapag NPA ang napatay ng mga sundalo, hahabulin ang mga sundalo at sasabihing Human Right Violation.
      Kapag Sundalo ang pinugutan, tahimik lang ang gaga na ito.
    • rose  •  2 months ago
      hay naku! para sa mga tangang blacktards. basahin ninyo ang Phil. Daily Inquirer dated Feb. 26, 2012, Sunday kung saan nakasulat sa commentary (front page) ang ganito. "Bad week for prosecution ends with music to its ears." The gist? Enrile held that the hearsay evidence rule does not apply fully BECAUSE THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL IS NOT A CRIMINAL CASE. magbasa kayo ng diario at wag comment ng comment ng katangahan lang.
    • guess?  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      ito ang sinasabi na mtuwid n daan patungo sa kadiliman...... kung totoo ang intensyon ng abnoy at ni de puta...... unahin nyo ang tongressman.... ang cabinet secretary...... purely paghihganti...... bagsak n economy natin dahil sa walng kwenta gngawa ni abnoy...... mlki nggastos sa impeachment n yan.... personalan n yan... . d5 at abnoy mga npa pnapakwalan lbag daw sa human rights... ang mga sundalo b n pinapatay eh walang human rights?isang malking kagaguhan......
    • Rosa  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      I'd like to see Justice Sereno on a witness stand and extract information from her on how come she had dissented on such trivial matters as non-compliance (?) in the TRO? even simple minds could dismiss Sereno's dissenting opinion by practical reasons such as: GMA has lawyers who can take care of the court's conditions even without GMA or even if GMA is on travel abroad. The conditions on GMA's TRO are in fact trivial in the sense that GMA is a public official and Congresswoman and by reason of presumption of good faith and regularity of her function as public officer, she could not escape accountability! I'd like to ask Sereno why not base her opinion on the right of every individual to travel more so that GMA has no case yet with any courts? I'd like also to observe Sereno if she is deserving of a justice and observe her body language if they have similarities with delima! hiwalay din kaya siya?
    • sally  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      sooo... it is now obvious.. PAGHIHIGANTI ang nasa likod ng impeachment trial ni CJ.. kala ko 1st class lawyer c sec.de Lima, bakit kya xia nagpapagamit? malapit n nman election pls.. sa ting mga voters.. wag nang papadala sa popularity ng candidate.. tyo ang lugi.. sa halip mga kaba2yan ang unahin.. hay, nku... nasan b ang bayan ng P-noy, nyo??
    • yan  •  Iloilo City, Western Visayas  •  3 months ago
      magpakamatay ka na D5, grabe ka kasama mag-isip at mag-desisyon sa isang napamabigat na bagay. ano ba ang qualifications mo? dapat sau bitayin din hindi lang di-bar.
    • ogie a.  •  3 months ago
      grabeng kahihiyan ito para sa prosecution... de lima, lalo mo lang nilubog ang prosecution!!!

      ACQUITED
    • Bentot Zepol  •  Manila, National Capital Region  •  2 months ago
      kasi daw hindi nya natngap ang TRO kasi nandoon daw sya sa malacayang ano kayang pinag uusapan nila d5 at p ny?
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