Filipino Cardinal urges charm offensive but hits President's lack of faith

And another thing, perhaps the honorable Cardinal forgot that when God created man, He gave him a very FREE WILL. And because of this gift, GOD himself cannot contradict what he has given freely. For to contradict his very creation would be tantamount of contradicting Himself. A GOD cannot negate himself. Let every Filipino utilize this God's gift of FREE WILL. Because even GOD himself, even with his POWER cannot impose his will upon man. GOD gave us a choice. To choose good or to choose evil. Cardinal please let the Filipino use the gift of FREE WILL.

magpasabog nalang ang gobyerno ng atomic bomb sa pilipinas solve na problema sa populasyon, tutal naman kayong nasa tamang relihiyon ay maliligtas :-)

Katoliko po ako kasi ito na iyong kinagisnan ko. May kaunting obserbasyon lang po ako.

Sa dami po ng taong nagsisimba, para na lang palengke ang simbahan sa ingay at init dahil nga halos hindi naman makaya ng electric fan. Buti dito sa ibang bansa, naka aircon tapos nakahiwalay ang upuan ng mga pamilyang may baby. Maingay na hindi pa maitindihan ang misa dahil palpak ang sound system. Nagkalat ang mga manang na pasiklaban at nagtsitsismisan sa loob ng simbahan.

Napakadaming batang palaboy. Paano na ang spiritual growth nila kung wala ngang makain. At di ba't kulang na nga ang pari, so paano pa magagabayan ang lahat?

Nasaan po ang simbahan noong panahong sinisira ng dating nakaupo ang basic values like honesty. Di ba primary requirement ang confession bago mag communion. Bini----an siya ng communion, ibig bang sabihin, nagkumpisal ang taong iyon na nandaya at nagnakaw siya at presto patawad na. Sabagay hindi nga inamin e.

Pag nagsuicide hindi binebendisyunan. Pero pag mayaman at taong gobyerno, exempted. Baon pa hanggang kamatayan ang lihim ng nakaraan.

Ang daming tambay at tamad na lasenggero at durugista pa tapos magagalit sa gobyerno dahil walang pangkain.

Hindi okay sa simbahan ang pagpapapako sa krus kaya ang tingin ko doon ay simpleng palabas o tourist attraction at hindi religious activity.

Sa lahat ng ito ano ang ginagawa ng simbahan?

Poor Jose Cardinal Sanchez. If you really believe in God, then you must know that God gave you a brain, right? And if you're not using that brain properly, is that not an insult to him?

JCS: "It is too much politics now and no longer religion."

That is because he is a politician serving the state, father. That is his job designation. It is not within his line of duty to retrofit an entire country simply to adhere to the BIASED, SHORT-SIGHTED and NAIVE morality of the Catholic Church. He is supposed to serve the incontrovertible morality of basic human rights. He was, after all, elected by the people. And just in case you haven't realized it yet, father. Not all Filipinos are Catholic. And even if they were, that does not justify the alienation of other religions or secularism because the country itself is still part of this thing called PLANET EARTH. And PLANET EARTH is not for you to conquer.

JCS: "[I came back to the country from Rome to ward off the] "tendencies that threaten to destroy the Catholic Church."

What's the matter father? Finally realizing that even the Vatican itself has no power over Europe so you decided to take on the little fish--the poor countries that have always been smitten by the band aid solutions of the Catholic Church? Well guess what, father? We INDIOS may be poor in a lot of things but we are no longer that poor in spirit. Nor are we poor in knowledge and dignity.

This is not the same Philippines met by your kind during the first time you came here with a cross on one hand and a blade in the other. We are beginning to think for ourselves. We are beginning to look beyond the MANY LIMITATIONS of the Bible, as God would want us to since he gave us a brain, in order to see the real problem. And guess what we discovered, you and your kind are part of it.

As for the so called problems that you came here to fix, we do not need the same hands that created them in order to solve them. Trust me, you'd be better off trying to solve problems in your own backyard; that is of course if you can find it in you to look beyond your antiquated doctrine to discover what is really wrong in your system.

JCS: "If there are bills contradictory to the Catholic teachings, I would go to these congressmen one by one to enlighten them with the Catholic teachings and they would easily agree with me. And as friends, they would find it hard to go against the bishop,"

And look at how well our country is right now, father. Poor children cannot go to school because they have to work in order to aid their parents in feeding them and their numerous siblings. Poor parents continue to copulate ceaselessly because your "fertility awareness method" has been working so well (I wish you can see me roll my eyes.) Meanwhile, the lack of proper knowledge regarding sexual health continues to worsen that problem.

Should we thank you for that, father?

JCS: "The world is changing, and the evil doesn't stop."

I agree. But do you know what the true evils of humanity are? Some of them include IGNORANCE and FEAR. Those are just some of the things that have been fostered by the Catholic Church's penchant for meddling in the affairs of the state since the time of Rizal.

And as for the "charm offensive" father, the only CHARM the Catholic Church has left recently jumped head first to its death from the pulpit after you dared to put you placed your faulty traditions before the welfare of the people.

I really wonder why are you guys pushing the RH bill. Is the bill really needed to control the population? How much percentage do we have that the Philippines will be a lot better country if RH bill passed?

There are a lot of bills already in effect, they said that its for the betterment of the country. But the real thing is, its for the growth of their own pocket not ours.

RH bill, another form of Corruption.

Sabi nila lahat ng government transaction dadaan sa "Bidding", hindi totoo yan, sila ang namimili kung sinong supplier ang magbibigay ng malaking KICK BACK nila!

RH bill is not opposed by church para lalong maghirap ang tao. It is opposed because the church doesn't want that the people be more sinful.

Lalong dadami ang pre-marital sex kung may ipapasa ito. Bakit ba kasi kailangan makipag-sex kung marami ka ng anak. Baka ba kasi hindi kayo makapag antay na maging safe muna kayo bago mag sex?

Lalong dadami rin ang mga taong maraming sex partners, dahil hindi na sila matatakot na magkasakit o magkaanak sa iba.

Kailangan ba talaga ang bill na ito? A lot of peoples money and time are already wasted in this bill. Mas lalo pa kung maipapasa ito.

Isipin ninyo ang tax na ibabayad ninyo, ipambibili lang ng condom sa mga kumpanya ng mismong mga government official o ng kamag-anak nila sa mga tao na hindi rin naman magagamit.

Uulitin ko, kung gagamitin man ito ng mga tao. Sigurado ba kayo na yayaman ang Pilipinas? Ang perang pambili ng CONTRACEPTIVES, gawin na lang perang PAMBILI ng pagkain ng mga taong naghahanap na lang ng makakain sa basurahan, nag luluto sa tabi ng highway, dun na rin dumudumi at natutulog at walang muwang sa kapaligiran.

Pag payag ang simbahan Katoliko na magpakain, magdamit, magpaaral at magpalaki sa lahat na pulubeng bata sa Pilipinas THEN may karapatan sila mang himasok sa RH bill. Pero sa ngayon akin lang napapansin na halos lahat nang paaralan na may pangalan nang santo at pinatatakbo nang pare at madre ay naka tugon lang sa may kaya o pambayad ng mataas na matriluka..... Bakit kaya?

Isa po akong Katoliko, at alam kong kahit noong wala pa ang RHbill issue, andyan na ang tinatawag nating family planning, artificial at natural, natural family planning ang sa simbahan at artificial naman ang sa Munisipyo. Laganap sa ating bansa ang abortion, pag inum ng contraceptives, pagamit ng condom at itoy practice na ng mga filipino katoliko man o hindi. Nakakapagtaka lang na ngaun lang sila naalarma. Laganap na ang sakit na ito ng lipunan ni halos wala ng solusyun at lunas. Bilang tao na kumikilala sa Diyos, lubhang nakakalunkot ang mga haing solusyun..Tayong mga tao katoliko man o hindi ay may pananagutan at responsibilidad. Huwag tayong maging makasarili, gusto natin ng pleasure pero against tayo sa buhay. At kung maganda ang ating hangarin at mitihiin para sa ating bansa at para sa kabutihan ng mga tao, kailangan may kaakibat itong sakripisyo,Natural method para gawin natin para parehas tau, wag nating kikitlin ang buhay na andyan na, gusto natin ng sarap pero ayaw natin ng hirap, wag tayong maging makasarili iyon lamang po. napakaraming naghihirap at lomolobo na ang populasyon pero ala pong short cut sa buhay. Magkaroon tayo ng disiplina, maging responsable at panatilihin ang pagpapahalaga sa buhay. Magtulungan po tayo. magmumula po ito saa ting mga sarili mismo. Hindi sa iisang tao at sa relehiyon nakasasalalay ang ikauunlad at pagbagsak natin kung hindi sa bawat isang filipino.

"increase the governments income?" --eh kung patawan kaya ng tax ang simbahan?

"too much politics?" -- yes. because the church keeps on releasing these statements that meddle in affairs of state

"I did not come here to fight the RH Bill. I came here to protect the Catholic doctrine." -- and yet all your actions speak to the contrary.

old priests, cardinals and bishops are some of the most arrogant people i have ever seen. in fact, all people of the cloth try to put the fear of the lord in you but do so by trying to act like gods.

this must how Jose Rizal must have felt like during his time. DAMASO has RETURNED with a VENGANCE!

puro lang puna ang simbahan katoliko, walang naiitulong sa ecomnomiya ng Pilipinas yan Sekta na yan!!! yung mga nakukuhang abuloy sa simbahan nyo ipagawa nyo ng mga bahay sa mga mahihirap na Pilipino malamang mgsimba na ko sainyo!!!!!!!!

I every Filipino must decide for himself what is good for the country not to be dictated by Padre Damaso..

Honestly, my faith in Pres. Aquino is starting to wane. I have also yet to fully read all the details of the RH Bill so I will pass on giving any opinion about it. But for this Cardinal to judge the President and say that he has been all about politics recently and nothing about religion anymore is a lot of @#$%. Cardinal Sanchez, excuse me, but start dropping all your fantasies about having a Roman Catholic Republic. It never happened and it ain't gonna happen anymore. The President is not out to serve just one religion nor does it need any more religion bullies.

Philippine society must start to learn to free itself from the chains of religion. It has no place in public, government and in any laws. We must start to learn to keep our faith and our religion to ourselves, as it is no one's business but our own. How else can we learn to respect the individuality of a person when there are prayers recited in non-Catholic/Christian schools, as well as religious statues in malls, stores and buildings, On a recent trip to Palawan, I rode a ferry that started off with a Catholic prayer on a blaring speaker before sailing out to sea. Total disrespect when you are forcing and shoving down your beliefs on those whose religion is different than yours.

When can we really achieve a secular state? At the rate this Church is going, perhaps never.

katoliko ako at wala akong balak palitan ang relihiyong pinamana pa sa akin ng mga magulang ko...pero aamin ako,lately ,medyo nawawalan na rin ako ng ganang makinig sa mga paring ito lalo na tungkol sa RH bill ang usapan..Medyo naguguluhan ako sa kanila,this holy week,marami silang kapalpakang ginawa during the mass.salungat sa pinakita ni Jesus sa atin..yung insident sa Baguio kung saan maraming nagsisismba ang napilitan lumabas kasi sinabi nung pari mismo na lumabas yung mga pabor sa RH bill! di pa ba malinaw sa kanila ito???practical na ang mga tao ngayon!!!marami nang tao ang nahihirapan,at tama ,mga tamad sila kaya sila hirap sa buhay..pero di dapat tayo tumigil doon..dapat nang kumilos ang gobyerno para pigilan ang pagdami ng mga batang sa murang idad naeexposed kaagad sa kasamaan..yung iba pinagbubuntis pa lang pinapatay na..ako, di ako pabor sa abortion,,pero hindi ako naniniwala sa sinasabi ng mga pari na pareho din ito ng paggamit ng contraceptives tulad ng condom!! sana naman lawakan na nila ang kanilang pag-iisip ...sana yung mga paring mag sasalita,,piliin nyo yung mga salitang bibitiwan nyo ,kasi kayo mismo ang nagpapakita sa amin sa pagsalungat sa mga turo ng Diyos! Huwag nyo kaming itaboy o hayaang manghina ang pananalig sa inyo..sana para matapos ang kaguluhang ito..hayaan na lang ng gobyerno at simbahang katoliko na ang mga tao mismo ang magdesisyon..idaan sa referendum!!! at sana kung ano man ang lumabas na resulta ay tanggapin at igalang ng simbahan.

I think the priests doesn't really understand what the bible says, I'm only 17 and I'm tired of hearing about the church getting involved in politics, religions should be neutral when it comes to political means. and yes, I understand that the RH Bill is somehow against the christian doctrine, but let us keep in mind what the bible says on 1 Timothy 5: 8 "But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever." Paano ka magproprovide sa pamilya mo kung nagkaanak ka pero hindi ka pa ready magka anak or wala kang capability para mag provide? Sex should be done after marriage, since hindi na uso sa panahon natin ngayon iyon, then it would be better for now to support RH Bill.

BIRTH CONTROL is SELF-CONTROL.

At hndi RH BILL.

Birth control is an excuse of those people who have NO CONTROL of their SEXUAL URGES.

i studied in catholic schools since grade 1 until i graduated college.
2 greatest gifts from God.
. 1 is our Savior, Jesus Christ.
.. 2 is free will.
my religion mentors would always cite examples of how we use the gift of free will.. this means not being coerced to do what the other party or another person's ideas but being responsible for the choice made and that ultimately we should always apply the teaching off the Lord is making our decisions or using that free will.
currently, the local church leaders are dictating to the policy-makers and imposing their line of thinking instead of letting the christians know the spiritual value of the RH bill as against the fast growing population and scarce resources of our lands. thereby, guiding the christian populace to be morally and spiritually defined.

if they are against RH BILL then Tax the Catholic Church and there Schools and all other religious sectors to help the Government on feeding the country! LIBRE NA NGA SILA, TUTOL PA NG TUTOL! ANU BA!!

Para sa akin wala akong sinisisi..para sa mga pari/cardinal/obispo tungkol sa issue ng RH bill...no comments ako kasi mas malawak ang kaalaman nila sa moralidad kesa sa akin or sa AMING LAHAT ng nag co comment dito...

Para naman sa gumawa ng RH bill ipaglaban ninyo kung talagang yon ang solusyon sa problema na nakikita nyo sa ating bansa pero sana mas saludo ako inyo kung ang batas na ipatupad ninyo ay ang pagbabawal sa mga malalaswang palabas, i block ang mga site na meron mga porn movies, i ban ang mga clubs na me mga sumasayaw ng kalaswaan, hulihin ang mga nagbebenta ng aliw at bi----an sila ng trabaho, Droga na kumakalat, Alak na walang limitasyon lalo na sa mga minor etc etc etc..

Ang mga ito ay iilan lamang sa mga dahilan kung bakit ang tao ay nagiging mainit at nagiging mapusok at me pagnanasa sa laman, dahil sa mga nakikita, nababasa at natikman ng mamamayan dito sa ating lipunan kaya nakakalimutan ang dios.

Sa mga tumitira sa simbahan regardless sa FAITH mo, regardless sa BELIEF mo regardless sa RELIGION mo ito lang masasabi ko...
Pag napasok ako nang CHURCH nag co concentrate ako sa positive di ako tumitingin sa paligid kung ano ang ginagawa ng iba, pinapakinggan ko ang salita ni BRO (we have only ONE GOD), offer my thanksgiving para sa mga blessings na natatanggap ko, pasasalamat for his guidance & protection, pasasalamat for my family & friends na laging sumusuporta sa akin, above all ang pasasalamat ko lagi for giving me LIFE for me to enjoy the beauty of his creation... magsikap nalang tulong tulong para makaahon sa hirap wag na yung awayan at bangayan lalo lang tayo mabaon sa kahirapan.

people should not talk about things that they don't understand. and the last time i checked, the catholic church is still run by people. so maybe priests and nuns should leave discussions about marriage, sex and birth control to those who actually experience them.

Ano na naman, nakikialam na naman ang simbahan sa pamamalakad ng gobierno. Ang mga cardials at priest na iyan ang nagpapahirap sa Pilipinas. Bakit sila masyadong negative sa halip na positive para makatulong sa bayan?

To the catholic church,pls ,tama na kailangan natin magbawas ng population,sobra na di na kaya,wlang trabaho lagi nlang kme sa ibang bansa nakakapagod na,dapat nga pagdating ng OFW dito sa pinas may trabaho na kaso wala,tama cla di kayang pakainin ng catholic church lahat ng tao,saka death penalty ibalik na walang takot ang mga taong may halang ang kaluluwa di kaya ng prayer dapat sabayan ng hampas,di ba yan dn nman ang ginawa ni Jesus noong nakagalit cya kailangnan gisingin ang mamayan,nagsimba ako noong nakaraan kararating ko last Sunday the church can't provide even a simple thing a MIssallette or Sambuhay that's important para maka-rely ang parishioner, a simple thing di nyo magawa nakiaalam pa kau sa diskarte ng governong maraming corrupt alam natin yun ipagdasal natin.Godbless!