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    Uninsured turn to daily deal sites for health care

    NEW YORK (AP) — The last time Mark Stella went to the dentist he didn't need an insurance card. Instead, he pulled out a Groupon.

    Stella, a small business owner, canceled his health insurance plan more than three years ago when his premium rose to more than $400 a month. He considered himself healthy and decided that he was wasting money on something that he rarely used.

    So when a deal popped up on daily deals site Groupon for a teeth cleaning, exam and an X-ray at a nearby dentist, Stella, 55, bought the deal — which the company calls a "Groupon" — for himself and another for his daughter. He paid $39 for each, $151 below what the dentist normally charges.

    Daily deal sites like Groupon and LivingSocial are best known for offering limited-time discounts on a variety of discretionary goods and services including restaurant meals, wine tastings, spa visits and hotel stays. The discounts are paid for upfront and then it's up to the customer to book an appointment and redeem a coupon before it expires. Merchants like the deals because it gives them exposure and a pop in business. Customers use them to try something new, to save money on something they already use, or both.

    The sites are increasingly moving beyond little luxuries like facials and vacations and offering deals that are helping some people fill holes in their health insurance coverage. Visitors to these sites are finding a growing number of markdowns on health care services such as teeth cleanings, eye exams, chiropractic care and even medical checkups. They're also offering deals on elective procedures not commonly covered by health insurers, such as wrinkle-reducing Botox injections and vision-correcting Lasik eye surgery. About one out of every 11 deals offered online is for a health care service, according to data compiled by DealRadar.com, a site that gathers and lists 20,000 deals a day from different websites.

    "I was accustomed to going to the dentist every six months," said Stella who owns SmartPhones, a store and wholesale business in Miami that sells mobile phone covers and accessories. "This filled the gap."

    The deals are popping up across the nation. In New York, a full medical checkup with blood, stool and urinalysis testing sold for $69 in December on Groupon — below the regular price of $200. In Seattle, a flu shot was offered on AmazonLocal for $17, down from $35. In Chicago, LivingSocial sold a dental exam, cleaning, X-rays and teeth whitening trays for $99, a savings of $142.

    About 9 percent of all offers on daily deal websites in November were for dental work or some kind of medical treatment, up from 4.5 percent in the beginning of 2011, said Dan Hess, CEO and founder of Local Offer Network, which runs DealRadar.com. The growth in health-related deals is good news for millions of Americans. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 46.3 million Americans under 65 have no health coverage.

    The number of health care deals began rising as copycat websites attempted to get a piece of the market. Search leader Google and shopping site Amazon.com have recently gotten into the game.

    Not all have been successful. In August, social networking site Facebook dropped its plan to start a daily deal business, and Yelp, a site that allows customers to write reviews of restaurants and other businesses, scaled back its daily deal efforts. Many smaller sites have closed. But the shakeout in the industry hasn't hurt the number of health deals being offered since the industry leaders, like Groupon, are offering more deals and are moving into more markets, Hess said.

    The health care deals may be attractive for people with gaps in their coverage or no insurance, but jumping from one health care provider to the next isn't ideal. Visiting the same doctor or dentist makes it easier to monitor how a patient's health is progressing, said David Williams, co-founder of medical consultancy group MedPharma Partners and author of HealthBusinessBlog.com.

    Also, it's important for patients to do their own research before buying a medical or dental deal, Williams said. "A referral from someone you trust is the best path," said Williams.

    Dental deals are the most popular among users of local deal websites — likely because even more people lack dental insurance than health insurance. Among the 172 million people under 65 who have private health insurance in the U.S., about 45 million don't have dental coverage, according to the CDC.

    Dentists have traditionally offered deals by mailing out coupons, but paper coupons have a low redemption rate, Williams said. Local deal sites are more attractive to doctors and dentists because they get paid up front and they reach new clients.

    "We reached a whole new demographic who otherwise wouldn't find us," said Dr. Gregg Feinerman, an ophthalmologist who runs Feinerman Vision Center in Newport Beach, Calif. He offered a 58 percent discount on Lasik eye surgery through Groupon. "It's a better way to market," he said.

    He used Groupon as a way to bring in patients under 30-years old with the hope that they would recommend his services to friends and rate him on review website Yelp. A good review might persuade someone else to visit his office, Feinerman said. He charges $5,000 for the surgery on both eyes; a price that he said can be "overwhelming for 20-to 30-year-olds."

    Feinerman approached Groupon about listing the eye surgery for $3,000. Groupon, which is based in Chicago, pushed him to lower the price to $2,100.

    Feinerman got exactly the type of patient he was looking for in Thomas Cho. Cho, 29, bought the offer and after the surgery wrote a review on Yelp. He gave the vision center five stars — the highest rating on the website.

    Cho said in an interview that his health insurance plan only covers 20 percent of the regular price of Lasik since it is considered a cosmetic procedure. He would have paid about $4,000 if he had used his insurance discount.

    Cho decided to buy the Groupon, paying $2,100 initially. After consulting with the doctor, he upgraded his surgery to an all-laser procedure for $1,000 more. At the time, Cho's credit card issuer was offering a 20 percent cash back promotion on Groupon purchases. In all, he saved more than $1,300.

    "I had my post-op checkup and I am seeing 20/20," Cho wrote on Yelp. "I couldn't be happier."

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    Joseph Pisani can be reached at http://twitter.com/josephpisani

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    41 comments

    • bruce bb  •  Las Vegas, United States  •  1 month 21 days ago
      the united states is the only non third world that does not offer it ;s citizens basic ,no frills healtcare.theres something wrong with this picture.
    • sean  •  1 month 23 days ago
      I have seen these dental, Lasix and teeth whitening deals at Groupon. but dentists and the rest are largely independent operators and much more open to market conditions. Also, we are speaking of mostly elective procedures here, not critical medical care. This is not a good expample of market based health care.
      I'm still waiting for a market based, consumer choice driven health care plan from those that advocate such. (crickets)
    • cachesoul  •  1 month 21 days ago
      the health care and insurance industry are doing every thing except provide what people need... affordable coverage. f'in shame.
    • Kunst  •  Paris, France  •  1 month 22 days ago
      Cash payers get hit with much higher costs than the insured. I had surgery that got billed at $20,000, reduced to $2,000 by my PPO. How much sense does that make
    • Skeptic  •  1 month 23 days ago
      What America's uninsured needs is China's medical ship which offers free medical care, if we would ever let it dock at our ports.
    • Damon  •  Portland, United States  •  1 month 22 days ago
      Awesome, I wonder what sort of deal you can get on a kidney or liver transplant.
    • Joe L  •  Montreal, Canada  •  1 month 21 days ago
      This is a reflection of exactly what's wrong with the US healthcare system. Read this line from the article: "Stella, a small business owner, canceled his health insurance plan more than three years ago when his premium rose to more than $400 a month. He considered himself healthy and decided that he was wasting money on something that he rarely used."
      This is called "gaming the system" and it's the reason why Canada and the rest of the civilized world opted for universal health care long ago.
    • Ed  •  Tampa, United States  •  1 month 23 days ago
      If you look at medical and dental care, for the uninsured there is no competition. Medical and dental is a monopoly in itself. Now let's not even talk about brand name pharmaceuticals when there is no generic equivalent. It is an interesting idea though with groupon.
    • citizensagainstcorporatea ...  •  1 month 23 days ago
      this is not health care. this country has lost touch with the realities of health care. when you are rushed to the emergency room with a catastrophic illness without real insurance, you will be declaring bankruptcy. it's important to have good dental care, but it means nothing when your body fails you or you get into an accident.
    • Hurricane25  •  1 month 23 days ago
      Everyone deserves healthcare.......If you work, u get free healthcare! Problem solved Washington! Whats been happening in the US regarding health care is highway robbery at its finest.
    • Michael F  •  1 month 22 days ago
      This is the kind of article that makes Europeans feel genuinely sorry for us.
    • Ray  •  1 month 23 days ago
      Imagine being uninsured, in a bad car accident. Better have that expired groupon thingy with or all you insured people will be paying the bill. (until 2014)... Then people will have to pay for their own health care....
    • PATRICIA AS  •  Kansas City, United States  •  1 month 21 days ago
      ron paul said if you get sick and don't have insurance, hospitals shouldn't have to take care of you, they should let you die. If he gets elected I hope that only happens to idiots that voted for him.
    • Dave  •  Indianapolis, United States  •  1 month 22 days ago
      Nothing wrong with this. It is a variation on the days when docs and dentists accepted chickens and eggs in payment. With dentists you could also get a haircut back in the day.
    • Heather  •  1 month 22 days ago
      This is a great trend, decentralizing the control that large institutions have over health care costs. This has the possibility of helping to cause a driving force downward in costs based on competition, similar to that seen in lasik, which is rarely covered, but has reduced in avg cost by an order of magnitude since its not so long ago beginnings. For providers, it brings guaranteed business and good WOM. - It would be super cool to see a deals site specializing in health care type stuff, like Zozi does for adventure trips, perhaps one that even incorporates an appt setting feature and works with a service like MS's HealthVault.
    • johnSr  •  1 month 23 days ago
      Most of these discount dental plans only have a very limited area of coverage.We need a nation wide plan.
    • BillW  •  1 month 22 days ago
      Many doctors and dentists give discounts for those paying in full with cash.
    • rlh100  •  Sunnyvale, United States  •  1 month 23 days ago
      I can see it now. The uninsured checking for groupon discounts on their way to the emergency room:
      "Things are slow in ER, so half price for the next 2 hours.
      Have you emergency condition now and SAVE!"
    • Ron Murphy  •  Louisville, United States  •  1 month 23 days ago
      Let's see how those groupons work,after a heart attack,or a bout of cancer
    • Cheep-O  •  1 month 21 days ago
      So when does Costco open it's own medical center in the back of each warehouse?
      I can see it now....
      "hey, I like your new kidney! Where'd you get it?"
      "Costco. It's a Kirkland kidney. I only needed one, but they came in a three-pack, so I had them squeeze them all in."
      "I hear that Walmart is running a special on chemotherapy, its low quality but it's pretty cheap!"